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How often can I have my skis ground?
How important is flatness?
How important is having just the right structure
How do I know which grind/structure to choose?
How important is stone grinding? Can't I do the same job by hand?
What is so special about the Mantec Ski Numericontrol 140 CNC machine?
What is the Nordic Ultratune process?
What is Hotboxing, and what does it do?
What does the Nordic Ultratune Guarantee mean?
What is your turnaround time?
Why do you ask for skis to be scraped? Won't they be damaged in transit?
Do I need to remove the bindings?
What is the best way to ship skis?
Why
no "peanuts"?
What are the most frequent causes of base damage?
How often can I have my skis ground?
This
depends on what needs to be done to the skis. If they are badly out of
flat, or deeply scratched, it may be necessary to take
rather more base off in order to produce a reasonably flat ski, and
this will not leave as much base material for future restructuring.
Flat skis with no damage, on the other hand, can be restructured over
and over. Lars Svensson reports doing some pairs "maybe 40 times".
Rule-of-thumb: Mantec structures are approximately 0.01 - 0.04 mm deep, and
the base material on most skis is 2 mm thick. Most racers prefer to regrind
skis annually, or in case of significant damage.
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How important is flatness?
Probably not very; in order not to take too much base material
off, I will often leave tip and tail areas still somewhat rounded.
Top skiers know that this will not effect glide or stability. The
main advantage of flatness is ease of waxing and scraping. Once the
skis have been ground, probably 99% of the base is flat - but you may
still see some rounding, or traces of old structure near the
edges.
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How important is having just the right structure?
It matters, but having almost the right structure is almost as
good as having the right structure, so it's better to get an
all-round grind unless you are able to dedicate a
pair to certain conditions. The important thing is to have good, open base material, and a
structure that is reasonable close to the snow you expect to ski on.
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How do I know which grind/structure to choose?
The
Ultratune Linear Series are all-round basic structures. The World Cup grinds are free running,
all-around structures that have a broad operating range. See the grind menu.
Recommendations based on testing and feedback:
My Picks: XC02 for classic skiing on colder, dryer snows, S2 and i5 for similar conditions on skate skis,
and M1D for warm, moist snows. These grinds should cover all but the most extreme conditions, and are the ones I do most of my own skiing on.
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How important is stone grinding? Can't I do the same job by hand?
Almost. But I have found stone structures to be up to 1 km/hr
faster in some conditions. In addition to the good structure that
grinding puts into the base, it also ensures as flat a base as
possible (both across and along the length of the ski), and provides
you with good, open base material that will absorb wax well. Quite
simply, top racers have their skis stone ground.
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What is so special about the Mantec Ski Numericontrol 140 CNC machine?
The Mantec is designed and configured specifically
for cross-country skis. It has the finest ski transport mechanism. It also uses a softer stone,
which can be dressed more delicately, and uses a unique balanced pneumatic
pressure arm, which presses the skis very gently against the stone.
Alpine machines (and operators) are used to wide skis with steel
edges, and the pressures and speeds used in grinding alpine skis will
simply melt and seal the delicate bases of cross-country skis.
Finally, the Mantec is computer controlled, so that surface speed of
the stone is constant. This means that our grinds are a) completely
replicable, and b) identical to those developed and tested by Stefano Vuerich
for the Italian, Norwegian, Slovenian, and other European teams.
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What is the Nordic Ultratune process?
Skis are prepared using a three-stage process: the skis are
flattened, using a working structure. Then the stone is redressed,
and the skis are polished, so that the final structure goes into a
completely smooth base. Finally, the stone is dressed again, and the
specific desired structure is put into the base. Bases are then
buffed, and a layer of wax is applied before the skis are returned to
you.
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What is Hotboxing, and what does it do?
The idea of the box lies in the fact that wax
absorption is more a function of time than of heat.
By far the majority of the skis I see have been
heat-damaged by ironing too hot, for too short a time.
The truth is, the entire ski must be held at a given
temperature for several minutes for wax
absorption to be anything more than superficial.
Testing has borne out these results, and the subjective impression is
that skis prepared with the Hotbox are now faster than before, and retain
glide to an impressive degree.
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What does the Nordic Ultratune Guarantee mean?
I guarantee all my work. If you are not satisfied, we will fix the
problem at no charge. Period.
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What is your turnaround time?
Skis are generally in the shop for 3 to 5 days. On an average, a
ski received by Thursday morning will be shipped on the following
Monday. Allow 2 to 3 days for shipping (overnight shipping is
available at extra charge). During the off season, skis may take considerably
longer, as I only run the machinery for 10 pairs of more.
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Why do you ask for skis to be scraped? Won't they be damaged in transit?
As the skis are to be ground anyway, any shipping damage or
oxidization will be eliminated in the flattening and polishing
process. Any wax that gets into the stone clogs it, so it is
necessary to remove all wax before skis go into the grinder, and when
doing a run of 20 or 30 pairs of skis, the time spent removing wax
adds up! (All skis are travel waxed before being returned to
you.)
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Do I need to remove the bindings?
No.
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What is the best way to ship skis?
FedEx or UPS are both good. Skis can come in a ski bag, or in
a cardboard box (try your local ski shop for boxes; also, most "mail
stores" carry boxes). Remove ski ties (or they become part of our collection!),
and tape the skis together with bubble wrap, paper, or
foam between the tips and tails. (Click here for How To Ship Skis.pdf).
Pack tips and tails in newspaper or bubble wrap. Please: no Styrofoam "peanuts"!
It is helpful if you print the grind desired on the tip of the skis, with a marking pen.
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Why no "peanuts"?
Styrofoam peanuts are not necessary: just wrap some newspaper or
bubble wrap around your bindings, and maybe something around the tips.
Skis shipped in peanuts are impossible to remove from the box without
spilling the peanuts. I do not have space in my garbage for them!
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What are the most frequent causes of base damage?
Probably the two most common forms of base damage I see are poor
steel scraping and over-heating with the iron. A word about both may
save needing to send in your skis for grinding!
Steel Scraping
Be sure to use a sharp scraper or good quality. Avoid thin scrapers
that can bend and create rounded bases, and avoid using a burnished
(wire) edge unless you are very, very sure what you are doing. The
best steel scrapers are very hard steel, and need to be sharpened on a
diamond stone. There is much more about this in The Complete Guide to
Cross-Country Ski Preparation (The Mountaineers Books - ask
your ski store to order it ) but learn how to make and use a 90
degrees edge on your scraper. Steel scraping takes skill and practice
- so don't learn how on you good skis! And do not steel scrape
newly stone-ground bases - this will remove the structure.
Ironing
Bases melt at 135°C. Melting the base, no matter how
little, effectually seals the "pores" in the base, so that they will
not absorb wax. It is very important to keep the iron moving (see
below), to check periodically to be sure there is enough wax on the
base to insulate the plastic from direct contact with the iron, and
to consider the type of ski you are working on : different cores react
differently to heat. For example, foam cores will absorb more and
more heat, causing the base to bubble as well as to seal. Fischers
will handle ambitious ironing better than say, Madshus. Treat bases
with care and gentleness!
Madshus rep and two-time Olympic wax technician Peter Hale adds
this: "Ironing too hot or too long will melt bases. If you have the correct
temperature on the iron, you can still damage the base with too many
passes, moving too slowly, etc. I counsel that one should look at the
base before continuing with the next pass of the iron. If the wax is
still wet - molten- it means the ski has enough heat of its own to
keep the wax liquid. This is the time to quit with that ski until it
cools. On some skis and with certain waxes, at a certain speed of
moving the iron down the ski, it might take two or three passes,
while other skis & waxes it may accept 5-6 passes. I think this
is important, as some customers -- and some coaches --have told me,
'I ironed all the skis exactly the same, Fischer, Madshus, Rossi, and
this pair bubbled'."
Please read the paragraph below on ironing.
Ironing Guidelines:
For real wax absorption to occur, the base of the ski must be
kept at the optimal temperature for 5+ minutes. It will continue to
soak up wax for much longer. However, steadily ironing all
this time can damage the base. Here is the system I have evolved:
- Crayon a protective layer of wax onto the base: this will
keep the iron from coming in direct contact with the base. Then drip
a little more on.
- Set your
iron at the factory-recommended temperature, or
about 25°C higher than the melting point of the wax. As a
general rule, I rarely wax above
115°C (except for certain very rapid applications, as with Star
MP100, which goes on at 135°C - but you move the iron
FAST!).
- Move the iron down the entire length of the ski in one
steady motion, at a speed that takes around 30-40 seconds to go from
tip to tail. This avoids too much contact with one spot, thus
avoiding heat build-up.
- Repeat 5 or 6 times, then put the ski aside, base up, and
move to the next ski.
- When you have repeated the process with ski #2, put it
aside, base up, and return to ski #1.
- Continue to alternate skis for at least three cycles.
- Allow to cool before scraping
(except for very hard
waxes).
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Date last modified: Oct 26, 2009
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